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World's Largest Batteries - (Pumped Storage)

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Recommended as a clear explanation of pumped hydro and its limits in energy storage discussions.

Practical Engineering explains pumped storage hydropower, which makes up most grid-scale electricity storage. It covers how it works and why it fits only certain geographies.

“There's a good watch on pumped hydro, and how it is kinda sucky” (HN, 2021)

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@carlhjerpe Oct 2022 Strongly recommends
on HN thread Geothermal may beat batteries for energy storage
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I'd say it's a quite big one, "every city" has water towers to provide pressure to the people living in it, or they rely on the water source if it's higher up than the city. There are probably exceptions, where this isn't true, but raised tanks make modern society possible. [link] more on water towers, which are raised tanks of water. We also pump water into fake lakes to later extract electricity from it. ( [this video] ) Another good thing with water towers is that we can keep running the pumps at a lower RPM where efficiency than if we were trying to build a system with pumps to keep pressure. Great channel if you're curious about everything related to humans relationship with water.
Pumped storage as lake-based electricity generation.
@creato Oct 2020 Recommends
on HN thread Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Storage (2018)
You could start by just calculating the potential energy of the volume of the tank you are considering, and the difference in elevation between the reservoirs (volume x 1 kg/L x gravity x elevation difference, plug in the units of your choice and let google figure it out). I suspect the amount of energy is far less than you are imagining... It takes a lot of water to generate a useful amount of energy. This video ( [this video] ) does an interesting demo and points out that a 5 gallon bucket on a ladder has the same potential energy as a watch battery.
Demo showing small energy in elevated water.
@gilbetron Oct 2021 Recommends
on HN thread The booming business of knitting together the world’s electricity grids
Looks like the high-voltage transmission lines are very efficient, losing only a few percent over hundreds of miles: [link] There's a good watch on pumped hydro, and how it is kinda sucky: [this video] Battery storage is the most likely thing, although there is also kinetic storage (flywheels) and some other ideas as well (ultracapacitors, for instance).
Explains pumped hydro and its drawbacks.

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