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Steve Balmer on KLOCs

Ali Gajani
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Cited on HN 5 times, 2016–2026, never outright recommended score 0
Years with an HN recommendation, 2007–2026

Linked whenever lines of code or developer productivity metrics are debated.

A one-minute clip of Steve Ballmer explaining IBM's obsession with counting thousands of lines of code (KLOCs) as a measure of programmers. He explains why that metric is useless.

“Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer on useless performance metrics” (HN, 2020)

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@protomyth Aug 2016 Cites it
on HN thread G.E., the 124-Year-Old Software Start-Up
> he didn't feel like they wrote enough lines of code. Say what you want about Steve Balmer but he had the right attitude towards that [this video] As to the rest, I get the feeling that a lot of players in the market that now need software have the exact same tales being told about them. It is going to be a wonderment to me if I will be about to get through a day in 10 years without a IoT failure.
Ballmer on measuring programmers by lines of code.
@pdkl95 Nov 2020 Cites it
on HN thread Microsoft's Creepy New 'Productivity Score' Gamifies Workplace Surveillance
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Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer on useless performance metrics[1][2]: >> In IBM there's a religion in software that says you have to count K-LOCs, and a K-LOC is a thousand line of code. How big a project is it? Oh, it's sort of a 10K-LOC project. This is a 20K-LOCer. And this is 5OK-LOCs. And IBM wanted to sort of make it the religion about how we got paid. How much money we made off OS 2, how much they did. How many K-LOCs did you do? And we kept trying to convince them - hey, if we have - a developer's got a good idea and he can get something done in 4K-LOCs instead of 20K-LOCs, should we make less money? Because he's made something smaller and faster, less KLOC. K-LOCs, K-LOCs, that's the methodology. Ugh anyway, that always makes my back just crinkle up at the thought of the whole thing. [1] [link] [2] [this video]
Ballmer explains IBM's KLOC obsession and why lines of code are useless as a metric.

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