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How Valve is Profiting from Steam's Back-Door Casinos

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5 HN users recommended this documentary6 months2022–2025 score 6.5
Years with an HN recommendation, 2007–2026

HN recommends it as well-researched reporting on skin gambling, especially its effect on minors, in threads about gambling and Valve.

People Make Games investigates the unregulated CS:GO skin gambling economy and Valve's role in it. It includes interviews with people who lost large sums and examines why Valve does not intervene.

“More people need to see interviews such as those in the People Make Games video” (HN, 2023)

1 strong recommendations · 5 recommendations · 2 citations · Documentaries · partly dated

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@maxbond Nov 2022 Recommends
on HN thread A lobbying blitz made sports betting ubiquitous
> This is inane bullshit. It's a video game. I think you may be unaware of the extent to which players, including children, are engaging in real-money gambling at the periphery of video games. Here's some recent reporting on the topic. [this video] Tl;Dw there's a thriving, multibillion dollar gray market for gambling with cosmetic items in games, as well as a market for trading these items for real money. Together this creates stealth real money casinos.
Multibillion gray market gambling with cosmetic items
@follower Mar 2023 Recommends
on HN thread Facebook is aggressively going after LLaMA repos with DMCA's
For people interested in this topic, the "People Make Games" channel on YouTube have a couple of related videos with original research/interviews: * "How Valve is Profiting from Steam's Back-Door Casinos": < [this video] > * "Working at Valve: 'A Fearless Adventure' or 'Lord of the Flies'?": < [link] >
Original research and interviews on Valve gambling
@drngdds Nov 2023 Recommends
on HN thread Steam Deck OLED
It's not even just loot boxes, but them letting people gamble with the items (which can be worth a lot of money!) on unregulated gambling sites that allow minors. It's insidious stuff. Good video on it: [this video]
Item gambling on unregulated sites allowing minors
@pityJuke Feb 2025 Recommends
on HN thread Valve releases Team Fortress 2 code
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> Underage gambling in the sense of spending real money to redeem things that may be impossible to redeem without spending it? Critically, Valve allows you to trade items. This results in a couple of downstream effects: 1. Items have real-world value because they can be traded for money outside of Steam. Multiple sites exist for people to convert items into real-world money (certain rare items have been sold for >$1m [0]). 2. As these items have value, they can serve as a surrogate for money in casinos, or for sports betting. 3. This can even lead to money laundering [1]. As such, skins should be considered money, but the sites running these services don't. Therefore, it is trivial for a child to walk into a game store, buy Steam credit, use that credit to buy skins, and then spend that money on literal gambling (as very few sites have KYC). I know because I've actively partaken in it as a child. Even cryptocurrency is harder: most legitimate exchanges attempt to do identity validation. Some video resources that might be useful: - Coffeezilla: [link] - People Make Games: [this video] [0]: [link] [1]: [link]
Video resource on skin gambling and minors

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@jerf Dec 2022 Cites it
on HN thread The Child Is the Teacher: A Life of Maria Montessori
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I went with the total honesty approach. It doesn't seem to have affected them negatively in my case. I mean, I still enjoy Santa Claus to some degree. I don't think thinking it's real is a critical component of the experience. My kids enjoy the elf on the shelf sort of thing, and they were always fully aware the elf is not actually getting up to shenanigans at night. Nevertheless it's fun for the entire family, because it stretches us parents to be creative a little bit every night as well. Most recently the elf was starring as Batman in a three-night, three-act structure in which he menanced Joker, then the tables were turned with the Joker having hijacked the Batmobile and running over Bat-Elf, then there was a climactic showdown involving the Lego train tracks the next night. Nobody needed to think these adventures are actually real to enjoy them. I come in in between; the stories are important for other reasons, but it is in no way mandatory to tell them they're real. Maybe in the 19th century it was less of a big deal, reality was more real in a lot of ways. But in a world of deep fakes, CGI, incredibly organized special interest groups comparable to the size of entire powerful medieval cities a few centuries ago, etc. etc. I need all the trust I can get if I'm going to train them to survive in the unbelievably hostile environment they're trying to grow up in now. Recently I was showing my kids how they're being targeted by video game gambling: [this video] and I was musing o
Used to show kids how games target them

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