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The Golden Ratio (why it is so irrational) - Numberphile

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HN calls it illuminating for explaining why phi is the most irrational number, relevant to hashing, spirals and phyllotaxis.

Numberphile's Ben Sparks shows why the golden ratio is the most irrational number, using seeds, continued fractions and rational approximations. He also explains why plants use it for spacing leaves and seeds.

“a mind-rewiring video by numberphile concerning the golden ratio [0] made sense of all the spiral overlay art” (HN, 2022)

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@jazzyjackson Nov 2021 Strongly recommends
on HN thread The Golden Ratio and User-Interface Design
Golden ratio is not arbitrary, it solves the problem: How to make sure nothing lines up. This link gets passed around a lot and it's very illuminating, demonstrating that the golden ratio is objectively "the most irrational number": [this video]
Illuminating demonstration that phi is the most irrational number.
@jazzyjackson Apr 2022 Strongly recommends
on HN thread Life’s preference for symmetry is like ‘a new law of nature’
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a mind-rewiring video by numberphile concerning the golden ratio [0] made sense of all the spiral overlay art: yes, plants use it because it is an optimal solution for minimizing overlap when sprouting leaves during growth, maximizing spatial coverage but also, as a number that is least able to be approximated by rational, erm, ratios - it is a pattern that most closely approximates random patterns. So more than any other spiral, a fibonacci spiral has the highest likelihood of overlapping random points in 2D space... (and fibonacci series converges on the golden ratio because they are equivelent expressions of the continued fraction 1+(1/(1+(1/(1+(1/(1+(1/... [0] [this video]
Explains why plants use phi for leaf spacing.
@ttctciyf Jun 2018 Recommends
on HN thread Fibonacci Hashing: The Optimization That the World Forgot
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The article attempts to explain this property of phi: > Maybe you have a picture of a flower, and you want to implement “every time the user clicks the mouse, add a petal to the flower.” In that case you want to use the golden ratio: Make the angle from one petal to the next 360/phi and you can loop around the circle forever, adding petals, and the next petal will always fit neatly into the biggest gap and you’ll never loop back to your starting position. And points to a video. I think there's a much clearer explanation which shows how this is because (in some sense) phi is the "most irrational" ratio, stemming from its derivation from continued fractions: [this video] I freely admit I have not a clue how this does or doesn't improve hash algos, but it's a cool video! :)
Clear explanation of phi as the most irrational number.
@glkindlmann Jan 2026 Recommends
on HN thread Golden Ratio using an equilateral triangle inscribed in a circle
I learned about this not from Mathologer, but Numberphile [1]. The second half of the video is the continued fraction derivation. I remember this being the first time I appreciated the sense in which the phi was the most irrational number, which otherwise seemed like just a click-bait-y idea. But you've found an earlier (9 years ago vs 7) Mathologer video on the same topic. [1] [this video]
Continued fraction derivation showing phi is most irrational.

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@baking Jun 2018 Cites it
on HN thread Fibonacci Hashing: The Optimization That the World Forgot
Phi is the most irrational of the irrational numbers, meaning that successive rational approximations are just slightly better: 1/1, 1/2, 2/3, 3/5, 5/8, 8/13, etc. There are no rational approximations that "jump out" as being much better, so you won't find any unexpected patterns when using it. The Golden Ratio (why it is so irrational) - Numberphile [this video]
Explains phi as the most irrational number via rational approximations.
@slazaro Mar 2019 Cites it
on HN thread Going beyond the Golden Ratio
I recently saw this [0] Numberphile video that touches some of the similar stuff at the end of this article, with the spirals being animated. [0] [this video]
Touches similar spiral material with animations.

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