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Big Plane vs Little Plane (The Economics of Long-Haul Flights)

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Recommended in threads on the 747 and A380 for explaining why big planes were phased out.

Wendover Productions explains why Boeing's efficient 787 beat Airbus's giant A380, contrasting hub-and-spoke with point-to-point routes. It covers the economics of long-haul flights.

“This is a great video on the economics of the hub and spoke vs. direct model embodied by the A380 vs 787” (HN, 2018)

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@crikli Jan 2018 Strongly recommends
on HN thread A personal ode to the Boeing 747
I was rolling my eyes at the subtitle. The article devolved from there. Some great (sometimes indirect) information on why the 747 and to a lesser extent the A380 are being phased out, from my new favorite YouTube channel, Wendover Productions: The Economics of Long-Haul Flights: [this video] ETOPS: Explained [link] Politics of Aviation / 5 Freedoms of Aviation: [link]
Explains why the 747 and A380 are being phased out
@mthomasb Jan 2018 Strongly recommends
on HN thread Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production
This is a great video on the economics of the hub and spoke vs. direct model embodied by the A380 vs 787: [this video] That channel also has alot of very interesting content on the economics of air travel (e.g., seating classes, how tickets are priced, etc).
Hub and spoke versus direct model, A380 versus 787
@afarrell Apr 2017 Recommends
on HN thread Ask HN: How do you unwind at the end of a day?
Ooooh, these are nice. Here are mine: Extra History: stories of historical incidents — [link] Real Engineering: mostly materials science — [link] - Wendover Productions — mostly transportation - [this video] Tom Scott: a bit of everything — [link] - Jay foreman: Urban planning and maps — [link] The Engineer Guy: Manufacturing — [link] Practical Engineering: Mostly Civil Engineering — [link] 3Blue1Brown: Math, visualized to me more intuitive — [link]
Channel on transportation, listed among unwinding favorites
@jasode Jan 2018 Recommends
on HN thread As of today, no US passenger airlines operate the Boeing 747
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>, what has taken over in the big jumbo market? The "big jumbo market" itself has shrunk in demand and was made less relevant by the newer generation of long-range fuel-efficient (but smaller) planes like Boeing 737Max/777/787 and Airbus A330. Airbus originally projected sales of 1200 A380s in 2005 but only sold ~300 so far. The "missing" 900 sales happened because many airlines rejected A380s designed for hub-&-spoke in favor of smaller planes designed for point-to-point. The youtube channel Wendover has lots of educational videos about transportation and he has a 10 minute video about the different economics of Airbus A380 vs Boeing 787: [this video]
Compares A380 and 787 economics in ten minutes
@michaelt Feb 2019 Recommends
on HN thread A380 cancellations by Qantas raise new questions about the superjumbo's future
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You might enjoy watching [1]. TLDR: There's a ~20 year lead time on a radical new plane design. The A380 is designed for an airline industry dominated by 'hub-and-spoke' airlines (where a large plane can make efficient use of expensive landing slots at busy airports), while the 787 Dreamliner is designed for an airline industry dominated by 'point-to-point' airlines (where a small plane can avoid the busy airport and expensive landing slot by serving smaller airports). 20 years after they were both conceived of, it's looking like the hub-and-spoke model is the future. Oh, there's still some demand for such a plane, and some routes are busy enough to benefit from it. But if there isn't enough demand to keep the production lines open, the production lines get closed, leaving existing operators high and dry. That fact makes operators nervous to place orders, which is of course a vicious cycle. [1] [this video]
Explains A380 hub-and-spoke bet versus 787 point-to-point

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